Indexes not rebuilding on SQL 2K DB MAINT PLAN

I see errors in my DB Maint log that indicates indexes are not being rebuilt.
We are having production problems - time outs. Does the optimization plan
for DB Maintenence drop bad indexes - simply put, what is my best way to
handle back indexes on a production server?
--
Regards,
JamieError is:
Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignored
--
Regards,
Jamie
"thejamie" wrote:
> I see errors in my DB Maint log that indicates indexes are not being rebuilt.
> We are having production problems - time outs. Does the optimization plan
> for DB Maintenence drop bad indexes - simply put, what is my best way to
> handle back indexes on a production server?
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie|||thejamie wrote:
> Error is:
> Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignored
That has nothing to do with indexes... This error is telling you that
you are attempting to do a transaction log backup against a database
that is in Simple recovery mode.
Tracy McKibben
MCDBA
http://www.realsqlguy.com|||That particular database is a production database. Why would it be in simple
recovery mode?
--
Regards,
Jamie
"Tracy McKibben" wrote:
> thejamie wrote:
> > Error is:
> > Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignored
> That has nothing to do with indexes... This error is telling you that
> you are attempting to do a transaction log backup against a database
> that is in Simple recovery mode.
>
> --
> Tracy McKibben
> MCDBA
> http://www.realsqlguy.com
>|||thejamie wrote:
> That particular database is a production database. Why would it be in simple
> recovery mode?
Only you can answer that question...
Tracy McKibben
MCDBA
http://www.realsqlguy.com|||Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode - not
recovery mode.
--
Regards,
Jamie
"Tracy McKibben" wrote:
> thejamie wrote:
> > That particular database is a production database. Why would it be in simple
> > recovery mode?
> Only you can answer that question...
>
> --
> Tracy McKibben
> MCDBA
> http://www.realsqlguy.com
>|||Open the database property window, select the option tab and check what
recovery mode your database on
vinu
"thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
> Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode - not
> recovery mode.
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie
>
> "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
>> thejamie wrote:
>> > That particular database is a production database. Why would it be in
>> > simple
>> > recovery mode?
>> Only you can answer that question...
>>
>> --
>> Tracy McKibben
>> MCDBA
>> http://www.realsqlguy.com|||Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove it from ur
maintenance plan darabase list..
vinu
"thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
> Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode - not
> recovery mode.
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie
>
> "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
>> thejamie wrote:
>> > That particular database is a production database. Why would it be in
>> > simple
>> > recovery mode?
>> Only you can answer that question...
>>
>> --
>> Tracy McKibben
>> MCDBA
>> http://www.realsqlguy.com|||Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I can run a
point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode for this?
--
Regards,
Jamie
"vt" wrote:
> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove it from ur
> maintenance plan darabase list..
> vinu
> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
> > Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode - not
> > recovery mode.
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> > "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
> >
> >> thejamie wrote:
> >> > That particular database is a production database. Why would it be in
> >> > simple
> >> > recovery mode?
> >>
> >> Only you can answer that question...
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tracy McKibben
> >> MCDBA
> >> http://www.realsqlguy.com
> >>
>
>|||With simple recovery mode you will not be able to do point in time restore
read BOL (Book online) for more detail..
vinu
"thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F1B75A04-D4AF-4F82-BBBE-681891483C4B@.microsoft.com...
> Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I can run a
> point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode for
> this?
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie
>
> "vt" wrote:
>> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove it from
>> ur
>> maintenance plan darabase list..
>> vinu
>> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
>> > Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode - not
>> > recovery mode.
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Jamie
>> >
>> >
>> > "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
>> >
>> >> thejamie wrote:
>> >> > That particular database is a production database. Why would it be
>> >> > in
>> >> > simple
>> >> > recovery mode?
>> >>
>> >> Only you can answer that question...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Tracy McKibben
>> >> MCDBA
>> >> http://www.realsqlguy.com
>> >>
>>|||Yes. That's right. Will the server need anything more than a reboot to
enter full recovery mode?
--
Regards,
Jamie
"vt" wrote:
> With simple recovery mode you will not be able to do point in time restore
> read BOL (Book online) for more detail..
> vinu
>
> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F1B75A04-D4AF-4F82-BBBE-681891483C4B@.microsoft.com...
> > Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I can run a
> > point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode for
> > this?
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> > "vt" wrote:
> >
> >> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove it from
> >> ur
> >> maintenance plan darabase list..
> >> vinu
> >>
> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
> >> > Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode - not
> >> > recovery mode.
> >> > --
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Jamie
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> thejamie wrote:
> >> >> > That particular database is a production database. Why would it be
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > simple
> >> >> > recovery mode?
> >> >>
> >> >> Only you can answer that question...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Tracy McKibben
> >> >> MCDBA
> >> >> http://www.realsqlguy.com
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>|||Hi Jamie
You don't even need to reboot. Just change to FULL, then make a full db
backup.
From that point on, you will be able to make log backups, and use them to
restore to a specific point in time, when necessary.
Please read the documentation on log backups and recovery models.
--
HTH
Kalen Delaney, SQL Server MVP
http://sqlblog.com
"thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7A6C958E-1DBD-4E41-8361-75FA5EE7996E@.microsoft.com...
> Yes. That's right. Will the server need anything more than a reboot to
> enter full recovery mode?
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie
>
> "vt" wrote:
>> With simple recovery mode you will not be able to do point in time
>> restore
>> read BOL (Book online) for more detail..
>> vinu
>>
>> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F1B75A04-D4AF-4F82-BBBE-681891483C4B@.microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I can
>> > run a
>> > point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode for
>> > this?
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Jamie
>> >
>> >
>> > "vt" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove it
>> >> from
>> >> ur
>> >> maintenance plan darabase list..
>> >> vinu
>> >>
>> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
>> >> > Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode -
>> >> > not
>> >> > recovery mode.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Jamie
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> thejamie wrote:
>> >> >> > That particular database is a production database. Why would it
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > simple
>> >> >> > recovery mode?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Only you can answer that question...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Tracy McKibben
>> >> >> MCDBA
>> >> >> http://www.realsqlguy.com
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>|||I don't think server will ask you to reboot
go ahead
vt
"thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7A6C958E-1DBD-4E41-8361-75FA5EE7996E@.microsoft.com...
> Yes. That's right. Will the server need anything more than a reboot to
> enter full recovery mode?
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie
>
> "vt" wrote:
>> With simple recovery mode you will not be able to do point in time
>> restore
>> read BOL (Book online) for more detail..
>> vinu
>>
>> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F1B75A04-D4AF-4F82-BBBE-681891483C4B@.microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I can
>> > run a
>> > point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode for
>> > this?
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Jamie
>> >
>> >
>> > "vt" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove it
>> >> from
>> >> ur
>> >> maintenance plan darabase list..
>> >> vinu
>> >>
>> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
>> >> > Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode -
>> >> > not
>> >> > recovery mode.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Jamie
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> thejamie wrote:
>> >> >> > That particular database is a production database. Why would it
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > simple
>> >> >> > recovery mode?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Only you can answer that question...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Tracy McKibben
>> >> >> MCDBA
>> >> >> http://www.realsqlguy.com
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>|||Thanks to all of you. This is a big load off my mind.
--
Regards,
Jamie
"vt" wrote:
> I don't think server will ask you to reboot
> go ahead
> vt
>
> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7A6C958E-1DBD-4E41-8361-75FA5EE7996E@.microsoft.com...
> > Yes. That's right. Will the server need anything more than a reboot to
> > enter full recovery mode?
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> > "vt" wrote:
> >
> >> With simple recovery mode you will not be able to do point in time
> >> restore
> >> read BOL (Book online) for more detail..
> >>
> >> vinu
> >>
> >>
> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:F1B75A04-D4AF-4F82-BBBE-681891483C4B@.microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I can
> >> > run a
> >> > point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode for
> >> > this?
> >> > --
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Jamie
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "vt" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove it
> >> >> from
> >> >> ur
> >> >> maintenance plan darabase list..
> >> >> vinu
> >> >>
> >> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode -
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > recovery mode.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> > Jamie
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> thejamie wrote:
> >> >> >> > That particular database is a production database. Why would it
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > simple
> >> >> >> > recovery mode?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Only you can answer that question...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Tracy McKibben
> >> >> >> MCDBA
> >> >> >> http://www.realsqlguy.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>|||Run this in query analyzer:
alter database dbname
set recovery Full
No reboot required
thejamie wrote:
> Thanks to all of you. This is a big load off my mind.
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie
>
> "vt" wrote:
> > I don't think server will ask you to reboot
> > go ahead
> >
> > vt
> >
> >
> >
> > "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:7A6C958E-1DBD-4E41-8361-75FA5EE7996E@.microsoft.com...
> > > Yes. That's right. Will the server need anything more than a reboot to
> > > enter full recovery mode?
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Jamie
> > >
> > >
> > > "vt" wrote:
> > >
> > >> With simple recovery mode you will not be able to do point in time
> > >> restore
> > >> read BOL (Book online) for more detail..
> > >>
> > >> vinu
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:F1B75A04-D4AF-4F82-BBBE-681891483C4B@.microsoft.com...
> > >> > Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I can
> > >> > run a
> > >> > point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode for
> > >> > this?
> > >> > --
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> > Jamie
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "vt" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove it
> > >> >> from
> > >> >> ur
> > >> >> maintenance plan darabase list..
> > >> >> vinu
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
> > >> >> > Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode -
> > >> >> > not
> > >> >> > recovery mode.
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > Regards,
> > >> >> > Jamie
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> thejamie wrote:
> > >> >> >> > That particular database is a production database. Why would it
> > >> >> >> > be
> > >> >> >> > in
> > >> >> >> > simple
> > >> >> >> > recovery mode?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Only you can answer that question...
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> --
> > >> >> >> Tracy McKibben
> > >> >> >> MCDBA
> > >> >> >> http://www.realsqlguy.com
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >|||"thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D8A1EEBD-95A0-4DB4-B40A-AD3AD0EA4E22@.microsoft.com...
> Thanks to all of you. This is a big load off my mind.
Umm, not quite.
Make sure you do transaction log backups.
And keep in mind a disaster recovery plan is far more than simply "turning
on backups".
It's managing them among other things.
How many often will you take a full backup? How long will you keep it?
How often will you take transaction backups. How long will you keep them?
Etc.
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie
>
> "vt" wrote:
>> I don't think server will ask you to reboot
>> go ahead
>> vt
>>
>> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7A6C958E-1DBD-4E41-8361-75FA5EE7996E@.microsoft.com...
>> > Yes. That's right. Will the server need anything more than a reboot
>> > to
>> > enter full recovery mode?
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Jamie
>> >
>> >
>> > "vt" wrote:
>> >
>> >> With simple recovery mode you will not be able to do point in time
>> >> restore
>> >> read BOL (Book online) for more detail..
>> >>
>> >> vinu
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:F1B75A04-D4AF-4F82-BBBE-681891483C4B@.microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I can
>> >> > run a
>> >> > point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode
>> >> > for
>> >> > this?
>> >> > --
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Jamie
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "vt" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> ur
>> >> >> maintenance plan darabase list..
>> >> >> vinu
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal
>> >> >> > mode -
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > recovery mode.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> > Jamie
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> thejamie wrote:
>> >> >> >> > That particular database is a production database. Why would
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > simple
>> >> >> >> > recovery mode?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Only you can answer that question...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Tracy McKibben
>> >> >> >> MCDBA
>> >> >> >> http://www.realsqlguy.com
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>|||And what kind of testing will you do to make sure you can smoothly recover
from your backups when the need arises?
--
HTH
Kalen Delaney, SQL Server MVP
http://sqlblog.com
"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" <mooregr_deleteth1s@.greenms.com> wrote in message
news:%23zodPZgAHHA.3836@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D8A1EEBD-95A0-4DB4-B40A-AD3AD0EA4E22@.microsoft.com...
>> Thanks to all of you. This is a big load off my mind.
> Umm, not quite.
> Make sure you do transaction log backups.
> And keep in mind a disaster recovery plan is far more than simply "turning
> on backups".
> It's managing them among other things.
> How many often will you take a full backup? How long will you keep it?
> How often will you take transaction backups. How long will you keep them?
> Etc.
>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Jamie
>>
>> "vt" wrote:
>> I don't think server will ask you to reboot
>> go ahead
>> vt
>>
>> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7A6C958E-1DBD-4E41-8361-75FA5EE7996E@.microsoft.com...
>> > Yes. That's right. Will the server need anything more than a reboot
>> > to
>> > enter full recovery mode?
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Jamie
>> >
>> >
>> > "vt" wrote:
>> >
>> >> With simple recovery mode you will not be able to do point in time
>> >> restore
>> >> read BOL (Book online) for more detail..
>> >>
>> >> vinu
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:F1B75A04-D4AF-4F82-BBBE-681891483C4B@.microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I
>> >> > can
>> >> > run a
>> >> > point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode
>> >> > for
>> >> > this?
>> >> > --
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Jamie
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "vt" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> ur
>> >> >> maintenance plan darabase list..
>> >> >> vinu
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal
>> >> >> > mode -
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > recovery mode.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> > Jamie
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> thejamie wrote:
>> >> >> >> > That particular database is a production database. Why would
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > simple
>> >> >> >> > recovery mode?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Only you can answer that question...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Tracy McKibben
>> >> >> >> MCDBA
>> >> >> >> http://www.realsqlguy.com
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>|||We're running simulations on virtual servers. Thanks again everyone for your
help.
--
Regards,
Jamie
"Kalen Delaney" wrote:
> And what kind of testing will you do to make sure you can smoothly recover
> from your backups when the need arises?
> --
> HTH
> Kalen Delaney, SQL Server MVP
> http://sqlblog.com
>
> "Greg D. Moore (Strider)" <mooregr_deleteth1s@.greenms.com> wrote in message
> news:%23zodPZgAHHA.3836@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:D8A1EEBD-95A0-4DB4-B40A-AD3AD0EA4E22@.microsoft.com...
> >> Thanks to all of you. This is a big load off my mind.
> >
> > Umm, not quite.
> >
> > Make sure you do transaction log backups.
> >
> > And keep in mind a disaster recovery plan is far more than simply "turning
> > on backups".
> >
> > It's managing them among other things.
> >
> > How many often will you take a full backup? How long will you keep it?
> >
> > How often will you take transaction backups. How long will you keep them?
> >
> > Etc.
> >
> >
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Jamie
> >>
> >>
> >> "vt" wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't think server will ask you to reboot
> >> go ahead
> >>
> >> vt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7A6C958E-1DBD-4E41-8361-75FA5EE7996E@.microsoft.com...
> >> > Yes. That's right. Will the server need anything more than a reboot
> >> > to
> >> > enter full recovery mode?
> >> > --
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Jamie
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "vt" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> With simple recovery mode you will not be able to do point in time
> >> >> restore
> >> >> read BOL (Book online) for more detail..
> >> >>
> >> >> vinu
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:F1B75A04-D4AF-4F82-BBBE-681891483C4B@.microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > run a
> >> >> > point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > this?
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> > Jamie
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "vt" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> ur
> >> >> >> maintenance plan darabase list..
> >> >> >> vinu
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal
> >> >> >> > mode -
> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> > recovery mode.
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >> > Jamie
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> thejamie wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > That particular database is a production database. Why would
> >> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> > simple
> >> >> >> >> > recovery mode?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Only you can answer that question...
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Tracy McKibben
> >> >> >> >> MCDBA
> >> >> >> >> http://www.realsqlguy.com
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>|||"Kalen Delaney" <replies@.public_newsgroups.com> wrote in message
news:eEBNUqgAHHA.1220@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> And what kind of testing will you do to make sure you can smoothly recover
> from your backups when the need arises?
>
Oh yeah. Good point. :-)
(We do home rolled log-shipping of most of our databases, which is a real
good check that backups are working etc. ;-)
> --
> HTH
> Kalen Delaney, SQL Server MVP
> http://sqlblog.com
>
> "Greg D. Moore (Strider)" <mooregr_deleteth1s@.greenms.com> wrote in
> message news:%23zodPZgAHHA.3836@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D8A1EEBD-95A0-4DB4-B40A-AD3AD0EA4E22@.microsoft.com...
>> Thanks to all of you. This is a big load off my mind.
>> Umm, not quite.
>> Make sure you do transaction log backups.
>> And keep in mind a disaster recovery plan is far more than simply
>> "turning on backups".
>> It's managing them among other things.
>> How many often will you take a full backup? How long will you keep it?
>> How often will you take transaction backups. How long will you keep
>> them?
>> Etc.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Jamie
>>
>> "vt" wrote:
>> I don't think server will ask you to reboot
>> go ahead
>> vt
>>
>> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7A6C958E-1DBD-4E41-8361-75FA5EE7996E@.microsoft.com...
>> > Yes. That's right. Will the server need anything more than a reboot
>> > to
>> > enter full recovery mode?
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Jamie
>> >
>> >
>> > "vt" wrote:
>> >
>> >> With simple recovery mode you will not be able to do point in time
>> >> restore
>> >> read BOL (Book online) for more detail..
>> >>
>> >> vinu
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:F1B75A04-D4AF-4F82-BBBE-681891483C4B@.microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I
>> >> > can
>> >> > run a
>> >> > point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode
>> >> > for
>> >> > this?
>> >> > --
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Jamie
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "vt" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> ur
>> >> >> maintenance plan darabase list..
>> >> >> vinu
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal
>> >> >> > mode -
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > recovery mode.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> > Jamie
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> thejamie wrote:
>> >> >> >> > That particular database is a production database. Why
>> >> >> >> > would it
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > simple
>> >> >> >> > recovery mode?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Only you can answer that question...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Tracy McKibben
>> >> >> >> MCDBA
>> >> >> >> http://www.realsqlguy.com
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>

Indexes not rebuilding on SQL 2K DB MAINT PLAN

I see errors in my DB Maint log that indicates indexes are not being rebuilt.
We are having production problems - time outs. Does the optimization plan
for DB Maintenence drop bad indexes - simply put, what is my best way to
handle back indexes on a production server?
Regards,
Jamie
Error is:
Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignored
Regards,
Jamie
"thejamie" wrote:

> I see errors in my DB Maint log that indicates indexes are not being rebuilt.
> We are having production problems - time outs. Does the optimization plan
> for DB Maintenence drop bad indexes - simply put, what is my best way to
> handle back indexes on a production server?
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie
|||thejamie wrote:
> Error is:
> Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignored
That has nothing to do with indexes... This error is telling you that
you are attempting to do a transaction log backup against a database
that is in Simple recovery mode.
Tracy McKibben
MCDBA
http://www.realsqlguy.com
|||That particular database is a production database. Why would it be in simple
recovery mode?
Regards,
Jamie
"Tracy McKibben" wrote:

> thejamie wrote:
> That has nothing to do with indexes... This error is telling you that
> you are attempting to do a transaction log backup against a database
> that is in Simple recovery mode.
>
> --
> Tracy McKibben
> MCDBA
> http://www.realsqlguy.com
>
|||thejamie wrote:
> That particular database is a production database. Why would it be in simple
> recovery mode?
Only you can answer that question...
Tracy McKibben
MCDBA
http://www.realsqlguy.com
|||Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode - not
recovery mode.
Regards,
Jamie
"Tracy McKibben" wrote:

> thejamie wrote:
> Only you can answer that question...
>
> --
> Tracy McKibben
> MCDBA
> http://www.realsqlguy.com
>
|||Open the database property window, select the option tab and check what
recovery mode your database on
vinu
"thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode - not
> recovery mode.
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie
>
> "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
|||Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove it from ur
maintenance plan darabase list..
vinu
"thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Can you give me a hint on this... it appears to be in normal mode - not
> recovery mode.
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie
>
> "Tracy McKibben" wrote:
|||Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I can run a
point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode for this?
Regards,
Jamie
"vt" wrote:

> Does your maintenance plan include master databases, if so remove it from ur
> maintenance plan darabase list..
> vinu
> "thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2D4155FC-D55C-4C9C-9630-1327B0E66D0B@.microsoft.com...
>
>
|||With simple recovery mode you will not be able to do point in time restore
read BOL (Book online) for more detail..
vinu
"thejamie" <thejamie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F1B75A04-D4AF-4F82-BBBE-681891483C4B@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thanks. I am in simple recovery mode. I would like to know I can run a
> point in time restore. Do I need to switch to FULL recovery mode for
> this?
> --
> Regards,
> Jamie
>
> "vt" wrote:

indexes

I am dealing with a database that has not had its indexes worked on in quite some time. Would the size of the db shrink if the indexes were rebuilt and re-organized? Or should the size remain the same?

Depending on the workload and volatility of the tables that the indexes are on, you probably will have quite a bit of internal and external fragmentation on your indexes. Doing an index defrag or rebuild will reduce or eliminate this fragmentation, which will reduce the size used by the indexes and thereby the size of the database somewhat.

Rebuilding the index will do a much better job than index defrag. Setting a lower fill factor when you rebuild the index will help reduce fragmentation in the future, but will make the index larger.